Problem: we wanted to use Redis [Labs] for our Database because we think the modules are cool, but we wound up having to choose PostgreSQL because RSAL is unclear about what is a “Database Product” (are all apps with search considered search engines?)
Further, we wanted to pay for the modules but the Redis Labs site lists the starting price for “Pro” at around 500-600 bucks per month, which is already too high for smaller open source projects, but then if you carefully inspect the pricing page, the actual starting price for Redis Enterprise Cloud Pro with modules is $1400 a month which feels far beyond what open source projects could fund... and the license limits our ability to test drive the modules.
It’s totally understandable for Redis Labs to protect valuable IP and get paid for great work, and I think many of us would gladly pay for the Essentials cloud version to use the modules and grow our apps with Redis Labs. Right now if you use MongoDB or PostgreSQL you get Search, JSON, and can do Graph modeling, for free, but if you want these features on Redis it costs $1400 per month after advertising $500 per month
I’m a Graph Database nerd and just wanted to say I think it would be huge for the Redis community if the RSAL could be clarified such that it would only apply to projects above a certain revenue figure, and if the examples of “database product” were more fully defined in the license text; and if the modules were included in Redis Enterprise Essentials, because that would be an affordable option for many more people to try these without license/hosting headaches.
Just putting an issue here for this because I’ve tried to reach out to Redis Labs about this and never got a really clear reply, and it impacts the Redis community because it forces smaller projects to use other solutions for Search, JSON, and Graphs (amongst other cool things possible with the modules)
Would it be possible for the community to get an approximate timeline on when Essentials might have modules? That would help us plan for the future
Thanks in advance for your insight and thanks for making Redis
Bion
Comment From: antirez
Hello @bionicles, everything you said has nothing to do with this repository, this is the Redis core and is released under the BSD license, the most liberal license available more or less. So closing this issue, you may want to contact Redis Labs instead. Does not make sense that a repository that is co-authored by different persons under a liberal license is targeted by this question, sorry.
Comment From: antirez
ping @itamarhaber the user above says it was not able to get a reply from Redis Labs. Maybe you may want to route this internally? Thank you!
Comment From: bionicles
@antirez @itamarhaber hey, I realize the issue at hand (mostly, redis labs site quality and modules license clarity) isn't really your direct responsibility but I figure you're like the Captain of the Redis Community and you get a paycheck from Redis Labs, so if their site has serious issues like it does right now, then it reflects poorly on you, even if you're not directly responsible for the price numbers on the site. Given Redis is one of the coolest projects ever made and I really want to use it as my main DB, I was sad that some random web dev isn’t meeting your great standard
Here Redis Labs advertises they're better than Elasticache because they have modules https://redislabs.com/redis-enterprise-cloud/compare-us/
Here they say the price to get those modules is $0.758 per hour
https://redislabs.com/redis-enterprise-cloud/
Then here the price nearly triples to $1.98 per hour
https://redislabs.com/redis-enterprise-cloud/pricing/
This typo hides a 261.213720317% price hike for basic features
Why not take a few hours to go over that website carefully and make sure it meets your standards? This would pay dividends in the long run, cuz you put buttloads of work into Redis and Redis Labs could certainly emulate your high quality work